Vladimir Prynkov, Yes, Vladimir, I don’t know what pushes me to do this. You’re right, I have a lot of work, but I’m so unusual in my attitude towards those who think they’re experts in photography that sometimes I just want to leave without looking back. But it’s a shame, because there are decent ones, too.
I'm so unusual in my attitude toward those who have become self-confessed photographers
Yes, there are some issues. It would be interesting to see if the site had rules like this: a photo is shown anonymously for three days, and recommendations for it are accepted only while it remains anonymous. I think the ratings for many authors would change dramatically. Sometimes, Photo of the Day is a work that, upon closer inspection, I personally can't even consider worthy of recommendation.
Igor, the photo is excellent! It evokes such emotions! And regarding your doubts and hesitations, this is probably typical of all creative people. Allow me to share my skill - how to stay afloat, and not destroy all your photos in one "wonderful moment"?.. I think it is still worth posting on several sites at once (no matter how much we would like to waste time on trifles).. Because VIEWS, TASTES - are so different that sometimes I am completely at a loss.. On one site, a photo takes almost the first place, and on another it hardly gets any views at all, and it is so easy to lose faith in everything - and especially in yourself... (( Don't leave, may luck, fortune and inspiration always accompany you!
MsTatyanaForever, good words, I agree with you in many ways, but searching is searching - and this is normal for a person who has not yet lost his head in our complex world, thanks for the support!!!!
Vladimir Prynkov, This system (or almost the same one) is used on photoforum.ru. It works well when there are a lot of members. I participated there. The most notable authors were very easily recognized. Some used the same exclusive frame, and this turned anonymity into profanation. I also don't like honey plants and all sorts of "alaverdy." I try to post rivers regardless of whether I know the author. The work is very good!
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), Alexey Zhaleiko, Gentlemen, you are not the only one who has not spoken out about work, but are simply stirring up old peat, this says a lot, HONESTLY, I DON'T CARE WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, move on and let's end here
Yeah... I don't know everything about the second page yet...
So Igor Ryzhikov, what keeps you coming back year after year after you've already told me where you've seen this site and its users? You could start with a public apology. You could start with new work, for example...
As for "work," I have nothing to say—I don't like repeating myself for the THIRD or SECOND TIME. I can't remember how many times you've reuploaded it. I said everything in your previous posts about this photo.
Igor Ryzhikov, I don't violate the site rules; I can visit wherever I want. If you want to gather sugar honey plants under one roof, create your own resource with a password for your own. And here there will be not only honey and sugar, but also horseradish and radish. So please forgive me, and be patient with others and their dissent.
Alexey Zhaleiko, Igor Kozlov (adam_k), why are you bothering me?
Nobody's bullying me. In my first post, I simply politely asked if the author had shot anything new while he was gone. Something like, "I missed you," "I've been waiting for his new work," and so on and so forth... He told me he'd won a bottle of beer to celebrate his return. Everything was extremely polite.
And then, bam! Another circus. More comments being deleted. :confused. More baseless aggression from the author... Déjà vu.
Undoubtedly, "Work" will once again become "Work of the Day," judging by the upvotes.
Well, what can you do? That means all the other photos by other authors are much worse than this one. ;) We'll learn to shoot better. To win by the quality of your work, not by the number of friends, as Igor Kozlov (adam_k) wrote.
Igor Ryzhikov, do you really think this photo is worthy of Photo of the Day on an international photo site? We'll give you a little gentle criticism. Let's start with the fact that this photo is in the wrong category. A classic portrait at least requires proper lighting, but here it's, well... let's say, incorrect. The category is more like "accidental portrait." If you were vacationing in some southern country and asked kids to pose, you'd at least have bothered to ask them to pose more effectively, so that there wouldn't be View crop and View crop mistakes like these.
Igor Ryzhikov, sorry Igor, I wanted to try my hand at being a honey plant, but I couldn't give it a recommendation. "Well, I sniffed, I didn't sniff" (c) some cartoon
Victor K. (NetHunter), you can write a ton of comments about any work, but that doesn't mean it will be better or worse. And this work won't become any less emotional.
Victor K. (NetHunter), Why didn't you ask this question right away, in the 32nd comment? Or do you think I'm obligated to chase your mood? Now try answering this question yourself
Gentlemen! Stop rattling your weapons! The girls are looking at you. Let's be gentler with each other. We're all so fragile and vulnerable here. If someone doesn't like someone, let them do so silently. Don't ruin the good atmosphere of this site. Please!
Lara Gramatchikova, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's enough to say you don't like the work, and there are always those, and don't be a fool! Thank you and Happy Holidays!
Lara Gramatchikova, I'm somehow indifferent to Comrade Ryzhikov. Whether he's loved or disliked on other sites, but here it's the "International Photo Site"!
Victor K. (NetHunter): Is it okay to punch someone in the face on international websites? Guys, I can give you some tips on how to get your temper out!
Boris, if it weren't for your comments, everything would have died down already. Since it was just a little short of the RD, let's give it a chance to reach the top of the discussions for the year!
When the author took offense at the criticism, he deleted his works (he had previously deleted "bad" comments), slammed the door, and left the site. But now he's back, but it seems he's offended again and is afraid of something again - * The author can delete any message.
Lara Gramatchikova, you've only been here a month and you don't know everything yet. Maybe we're celebrating Rosh Hashanah here By the way, happy holiday, Breeder Eden
Boris Belenkiy, did I pick on anyone? If you read all the comments under this photo, yours are the rudest and most unpleasant. Lara Gramatchikova, it seems like no one here was hitting anyone... The only thing I see is that Comrade Boris Belenkiy is being rude and insolent.
Lara Gramatchikova, You're supposed to punch someone in the face everywhere, if you're still a man, and answer for your words. But the virtual world allows cowards to do things they'd never dare do in real life. It's thanks to the virtual world that the torrent of filth and abuse flows. In real life, it's simpler; if you'd just punched someone in the face or in the cut, the argument would be brief, not three pages long.
Victor K. (NetHunter), our comments might well have been completely forgotten if the GOATS hadn't attacked.
And the work is worthy of an exhibition, and a high-quality exhibition at that. As for the shortcomings, I also noted them in my first comment, and you also noted them in comment #32.
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), unfortunately, I don't have one like that in my hometown or even my class! Igor Kozlov (adam_k), yeah, I'd give him a punch, he'd get three years for malicious hooliganism, and those three years would be quiet.
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), not Israeli ones, just Haifa ones, where I ended up by fate, and I'm not promoting them, I'm just talking about them. Tell us about your city's exhibitions, instead of spewing bile on our photo site!
Igor Ryzhikov, modern internet browsers have a spellcheck feature. I recommend using it; frankly, it makes me cringe when an adult makes such mistakes in comments. Boris Belenky, I explained, well, I can't do that. I tried, but I can't be a honey plant. I'd be interested to see a high-quality exhibition of this...
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), Igor Kozlov (adam_k), this comment should have been the one to start with; the author would have taken it into account. But he's started a fuss here (again, for no apparent reason).
It's funny... But I don't think the problem is the author. What does he have to do with it? He didn't force me, he didn't torture me, he didn't promise me money. The problem, in my opinion, is with those 33 people who gave me recommendations. Well, with a few exceptions That's where the problem lies... Although, I know, this is such a never-ending topic... P.S., author, nothing personal.
Is it really a mean avatar? I'm smiling in the photo and have kind, squinting eyes. I could have, of course, put my butt in the avatar; it's definitely not mean, but rather pretty, but you'd still find something ugly and sinister about it.
Well, we've had our fun and that's it, time to be men ))) Let's keep quiet for a bit. I felt a bit awkward in front of the fairer sex about this performance. Pardon me Igor Ryzhikov, and I'll be stopping by to see you, just don't delete the comments, and if you're leaving, leave gracefully.
Of course, Igor, if you spend your time on disassembling instead of taking photos, then there won't be anything left, but in any case, tomorrow at 5:30 I'm leaving for a shoot in the north, in Upper Galilee
Before writing anything, always remember that the other person might quote you, and you won't be able to delete it. The phrase will remain hanging on the fence, characterizing the author. However, if anyone feels ashamed of what they said, you can contact me through the contact form, and I'll delete it. You always need to give people the opportunity to "save face"
Master, it's just that some people pretend to be great photographers (photo critics), even though true greats usually don't behave that way.
Well, the main thing is not to go overboard in convincing each other that you're both wrong. The temperature in this discussion is already "on the edge."
As I understand it, we're a photography club, and such "attacks" discourage many (especially beginners) from pursuing this hobby, and photography, and along with it, all of us, lose out. This is what makes me so passionate.
This is a fucking show!!! Maybe I should give some recommendations to someone I've taught my friends not to just post behind their backs. What the hell, excuse me, rivers, if... sorry, that's not happiness. Igor!!! Well, don't step on the same rake!!! Start looking for something new!!! Well, it won't work out and God bless it, but find yourself, what you like =) And posting the past is honestly driving yourself into a dead end. I caught my breath... I said it all. Go for it. Just don't throw this work away.
Wow! Scientific and technological progress has taken great strides! How many intelligent and well-mannered comrades there are around. And what lofty thoughts and expressions: "to give a kick in the ass," "cut-out parts"—which can also be kicked—and simply "beautiful asses." These are the universal methods for resolving disputes and discussions in civilized society, especially in photography circles. Craft a cudgel. Approach. Give it a whack... A photo critic is born. Plus new ways to address your interlocutor: "Goat" and "Moron." How wonderful! What a level! What people! An international photo site, in a word.
But, given all the victories and achievements, we shouldn't forget the new class enemy of the common photographer—the "honey-giver." This villain is insidious and dangerous. It gnaws at everyone from the inside. Anyone who gives a recommendation today could become... you know what tomorrow. Photo comrade! Be careful who you recommend and adopt the slogan: "Let me be a loud shit-sucker, rather than remain in the eyes of people just a pathetic honey-giver"!
Igor, I'm glad to be back! I post on several sites. I left one twice and then came back. I just don't pay attention to those highbrow ones. There are strong authors and normal people who feed my creativity. Good luck!
Phew! I read all the comments – it was a pleasure I can't quite put into words. The site was sorely lacking in action. The author left – silence fell, the guns began to rust, the gunpowder grew moldy and mossy, the critics got bored.... And then suddenly – BAAAAH!!!! – nice.
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Hmm...................things have already gone too far... And a place (site) where people are united by an interest in photography has turned into a place... There are always creators and destroyers........(of a site)......of course, we are people... Level and culture are also determined by people (authors).........And perhaps I still don't understand much about life....But "work," in the title of which a truce was implied...led to................... Soon, authors here will simply be afraid to recommend.............(and what will they think of me and what will they call me, if they already........don't think) Many authors are slowly leaving here...and they wouldn't leave so easily... Photography is fading into another plan...on the foreground (conflict)..............(this is exactly what is happening on many pages simultaneously) and everyone can see the reason........ I'm sure many resources would have stopped this long ago......... But after they spoke out about the Master, and He..............(is inactive). I'm speechless....what can I say about appealing to others........ And if comments (conversations) are, because of someone..., sources of conflicts and scandals, then I don't need them... And if management is incapable of stopping this epidemic............. I will post photos without permission from comments... ..................at this point in time....I hope my friends will understand... And let PHOTOGRAPHY be the source of our interest and love!
Hey, guys... you're grown-ups, smart people... I'm shocked Provocations on both sides, it's like a sandbox...
All this evokes nothing but disgust and pity for some of the characters in this drama. And I really don't want to repeat "work," which I've already repeated ten times before. Snot and drool.
Igor, welcome back! By the way, it's a shame I won't see that "Martian terrain" photo on the site anymore, with its sun-gilded mountain peaks, a small airplane, and a vast vista.
I missed such battles. I DON'T like the photo. Honey plants are truly disgusted. 171 comments for nothing. A photo with the same rating. It's like night and day. There's a photograph there, and here's a home photo album. It's all just my opinion, of course.
Many authors are slowly leaving here...and they wouldn't just leave...
- should I tell you why they're leaving? Because the site is run by honey-producing bloggers, and the top posts are filled with photos that look like elementary school students. Igor, sorry for the off-topic
I remember you had a lot of work, but now I've looked at the album - this is the only one.
Yes, there are some issues. It would be interesting to see if the site had rules like this: a photo is shown anonymously for three days, and recommendations for it are accepted only while it remains anonymous. I think the ratings for many authors would change dramatically. Sometimes, Photo of the Day is a work that, upon closer inspection, I personally can't even consider worthy of recommendation.
P.S. Welcome back!!!
Igor, I'm glad to welcome you to the site!
The work is very good!
Igor Ryzhikov, - this work will be the work of the day again, thanks to my honey-producing friends
So Igor Ryzhikov, what keeps you coming back year after year after you've already told me where you've seen this site and its users?
You could start with a public apology.
You could start with new work, for example...
And here there will be not only honey and sugar, but also horseradish and radish. So please forgive me, and be patient with others and their dissent.
You'll drive the author to the point of deleting all (one) works again :naezd:
Something like, "I missed you," "I've been waiting for his new work," and so on and so forth...
He told me he'd won a bottle of beer to celebrate his return. Everything was extremely polite.
And then, bam! Another circus. More comments being deleted. :confused. More baseless aggression from the author... Déjà vu.
Undoubtedly, "Work" will once again become "Work of the Day," judging by the upvotes.
Well, what can you do? That means all the other photos by other authors are much worse than this one. ;) We'll learn to shoot better.
To win by the quality of your work, not by the number of friends, as Igor Kozlov (adam_k) wrote.
Grandma had two cheerful geese.
One red, the other white,
Two cheerful geese!
I posted a photo and immediately got positive reviews from the first shot, but a group of friends didn't like it.
My advice: ignore it. It's not criticism they're doing, it's denigration, and the driving force behind it all is envy!
Maybe you should say something more to the point!?
Sorry to the participants... I came in, saw it, and was shocked...
And this work won't become any less emotional.
I gladly accept any feedback; we learn from our mistakes.
Since it was just a little short of the RD, let's give it a chance to reach the top of the discussions for the year!
Maybe we're celebrating Rosh Hashanah here
Lara Gramatchikova, it seems like no one here was hitting anyone... The only thing I see is that Comrade Boris Belenkiy is being rude and insolent.
And the work is worthy of an exhibition, and a high-quality exhibition at that. As for the shortcomings, I also noted them in my first comment, and you also noted them in comment #32.
So, be consistent!
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), yeah, I'd give him a punch, he'd get three years for malicious hooliganism, and those three years would be quiet.
Igor Kozlov (adam_k), not Israeli ones, just Haifa ones, where I ended up by fate, and I'm not promoting them,
I'm just talking about them.
Tell us about your city's exhibitions, instead of spewing bile on our photo site!
Boris Belenky, I explained, well, I can't do that. I tried, but I can't be a honey plant.
I'd be interested to see a high-quality exhibition of this...
But he's started a fuss here (again, for no apparent reason).
But I don't think the problem is the author. What does he have to do with it? He didn't force me, he didn't torture me, he didn't promise me money.
The problem, in my opinion, is with those 33 people who gave me recommendations. Well, with a few exceptions
That's where the problem lies...
Although, I know, this is such a never-ending topic...
P.S., author, nothing personal.
Is it really a mean avatar? I'm smiling in the photo and have kind, squinting eyes. I could have, of course, put my butt in the avatar; it's definitely not mean, but rather pretty, but you'd still find something ugly and sinister about it.
Borya, your hands are shaking, you're typing twice and it's stuck on the word "KOZLOV." Release the caps lock and drink some water.
What will the jungle say?!
Igor Ryzhikov, and I'll be stopping by to see you, just don't delete the comments, and if you're leaving, leave gracefully.
although true Greats don't usually behave like that.
Well, the main thing is not to go overboard in convincing each other that you're both wrong. The temperature in this discussion is already "on the edge."
This is what makes me so passionate.
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But, given all the victories and achievements, we shouldn't forget the new class enemy of the common photographer—the "honey-giver." This villain is insidious and dangerous. It gnaws at everyone from the inside. Anyone who gives a recommendation today could become... you know what tomorrow. Photo comrade! Be careful who you recommend and adopt the slogan: "Let me be a loud shit-sucker, rather than remain in the eyes of people just a pathetic honey-giver"!
V.Buturlia (albion), Nikolay Matveenko, OneMan, Sergey Tigarev, Golosov Petr, bk, Braguine, PAVELKO VLADIMIR, Vladus_DS, Viktor Stribuk (Strybuk), Nikolay Morskiy, Viktor Kravchenko, Alexander Shilyaev, Eva, Tumanova Irina, MsTatyanaForever, Yuri Shepelev, Tyulneva Irina, Boris Belenkiy begin_of_the_skype_highlighting end_of_the_skype_highlighting, Vladimir Prynkov, R_S, Alexander Demin, crANNk, Petkovich, Akim Yurkevich, mitrich, Larisa Kaichenkova, Lara Gramatchikova, alex sh, Ruslan Barannik, iskra, igorr, Yurii_tiji, julia lipskaya, Olga Slutskaya, igor donin)
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT!!!!!
And a place (site) where people are united by an interest in photography has turned into a place...
There are always creators and destroyers........(of a site)......of course, we are people...
Level and culture are also determined by people (authors).........And perhaps I still don't understand much about life....But "work," in the title of which a truce was implied...led to...................
Soon, authors here will simply be afraid to recommend.............(and what will they think of me and what will they call me, if they already........don't think)
Many authors are slowly leaving here...and they wouldn't leave so easily...
Photography is fading into another plan...on the foreground (conflict)..............(this is exactly what is happening on many pages simultaneously) and everyone can see the reason........
I'm sure many resources would have stopped this long ago.........
But after they spoke out about the Master, and He..............(is inactive). I'm speechless....what can I say about appealing to others........
And if comments (conversations) are, because of someone..., sources of conflicts and scandals, then I don't need them...
And if management is incapable of stopping this epidemic.............
I will post photos without permission from comments...
..................at this point in time....I hope my friends will understand...
And let PHOTOGRAPHY be the source of our interest and love!
I'm shocked
Provocations on both sides, it's like a sandbox...
All this evokes nothing but disgust and pity for some of the characters in this drama.
And I really don't want to repeat "work," which I've already repeated ten times before.
Snot and drool.
I DON'T like the photo. Honey plants are truly disgusted. 171 comments for nothing.
A photo with the same rating. It's like night and day. There's a photograph there, and here's a home photo album.
It's all just my opinion, of course.
Igor, sorry for the off-topic