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Foto di Porsh Evgen, fotografo. Panorama paesaggistico: sea, storm. Pubblicata il 28.12.2020.
Commenti 37
Svetlana Kuleshova
28.12.2020 09:02
Scary...
Vera Petri
Vera Petri 1,055.03
28.12.2020 09:42
Super! Very impressive!
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
28.12.2020 18:05
It's exciting, though! In every way... I love the photo!

Why didn't they take the trawl a little earlier, so as not to risk people? Or is this a normal situation? Some are even crouched, some are just talking, the door to the hold is wide open...
Backwoods
Backwoods 375.99
28.12.2020 18:10
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky,
Why didn't they set the trawl a little earlier, so as not to risk people? Or is this a normal situation? Some are even crouched, some are just talking, the door to the hold is wide open...
The author, of course, will answer for himself. As a former sailor, I can't ignore it
It happens that the trawl is set under normal conditions, and then the seas get rougher. Setting it earlier means losing part of the catch, so they endure it. The navigators have a scale of points - how long they can work, and at what point they can "storm around" without the trawl.
Backwoods
Backwoods 375.99
28.12.2020 18:14
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, I had to watch from the wheelhouse... Too bad I didn't have a camera then.

Viktor Kirillov
28.12.2020 19:01
How exciting, though! In every way... I like the photo!

Why didn't they take the trawl out a bit earlier, so as not to risk people? Or is this a normal situation? Some are even crouched, some are just talking, the door to the hold is wide open...
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, I'm not a fisherman, so I have a traditional, and therefore the most accurate, answer to this: capitalism cares about safety last of all, not only at sea, but also in a mine, on a construction site, etc. Profit comes before human life.
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
28.12.2020 19:13
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, I had to watch from the wheelhouse... Too bad I didn't have a camera then.

Backwoods, The price of a fish can be too high... In such cases, it's highly advisable to have insurance (at least a safety harness with a rope), so that if the water washes you away, you can pull it out. Otherwise, it's all up in the air
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
28.12.2020 19:17
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, I'm not a fisherman, so I have a traditional, and therefore most accurate, answer to this: capitalism cares least about safety, not just at sea, but also in the mines, on construction sites, etc. Profit trumps human life.
Viktor Kirillov, But under socialism, human life is worth nothing in any war. And that's a fact... Here, only a few people might die, but in war, the death toll is in the millions. So, capitalism is better
Backwoods
Backwoods 375.99
28.12.2020 19:19
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky,
Backwoods, The price of a fish might be too high.... In such cases, it's highly advisable to have insurance (at least a safety harness with a rope) so that if the water washes you away, you can pull yourself out. Otherwise, everything's left to chance.
Well, yes... you need to tie yourself with a rope. But how can you run around the deck with a rope? Which can get tangled in everything? If a sailor falls overboard, he'd be carried away, and then picked up. But the rope won't let you go and gets you caught under the propeller. Good advice.
Viktor Kirillov
28.12.2020 19:39
Viktor Kirillov, But under socialism, human life is worth nothing in any war. And that's a fact... Only a few people might die here, but in war, millions are involved. So, capitalism is better.
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky International imperialism has waged hundreds of times more wars than the USSR, from colonial conquests to modern wars over oil and resources. And man-made and environmental disasters, and even fires in the Winter Cherry and Lame Horse neighborhoods, kill hundreds of people every year, precisely because of the criminal greed for profit.
Aa.
Aa. 497.48
28.12.2020 19:54
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky[/b] International imperialism has unleashed hundreds of times more wars than the USSR, from colonial conquests to modern wars for oil and resources. And man-made and environmental disasters, including fires in the Winter Cherry and Lame Horse Parks and nursing homes, kill hundreds of people every year, precisely because of the criminal greed for profit.
Viktor Kirillov, They spoke about the brutal grin of imperialism and the power of the golden calf on the International Panorama; I remember it well. But they apparently simply forgot to mention Chernobyl in this panorama (((
"You're on the right path, comrades," "The Party is the mind, honor, and conscience of our era."...
"Just think, our generation will still live under communism!"
Viktor Kirillov
28.12.2020 20:02
Viktor Kirillov, I remember it well on the "International Panorama" program, they talked about the brutal grin of imperialism and the power of the golden calf. But they apparently simply forgot to mention Chernobyl in that program. (((
"You're on the right path, comrades," "The Party is the mind, honor, and conscience of our era."...
"Just think, our generation will still live under communism!"
Anatoly Fomin, There are no socialist countries now, no ideological confrontation, yet wars continue, even among once fraternal Slavic peoples. How can you explain this historical paradox?
Aa.
Aa. 497.48
28.12.2020 20:10
Anatoly Fomin, Now there are no socialist countries, no ideological confrontation, but wars continue, even among the once fraternal Slavic peoples. How can you explain this historical paradox?
Viktor Kirillov, Almost every capable individual would escape from the socialist paradise if they had the opportunity.
Nessie Skuch
Nessie Skuch 988.13
28.12.2020 20:54
Wow! Impressive !!!
Vladimir Fed 407.60
29.12.2020 04:46
Viktor Kirillov, But under socialism, in any war, human life is worth nothing. And that's a fact... Only a few people might die here, but in war, millions are involved. So, capitalism is better.
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, Because in a socialist war, there's something worth dying for, while capitalist Europe surrendered to Nazi Germany practically without a fight. Under capitalism, people live in fear, driven by animal instincts, which is why prostitution, drug addiction, and obscurantism flourish. Capitalism...
Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 05:08
However, it's exciting! In every way... I like the photo!

Why didn't they set the trawl a little earlier, so as not to risk people? Or is this a normal situation? Some people are even crouched, some are just talking, the door to the hold is wide open...
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, The CEO ordered the captain to set the trawl in the evening, even though the weather was already deteriorating...by morning it was already getting worse. They spent a long time deciding whether to set the trawl or not (just cut it). It was clearly visible when the sack floated to the surface; it weighed two tons...if it had been 40 tons or more, the ship could have capsized on the waves. The greed of company owners is what sometimes leads to the destruction of ships.
Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 05:12
How exciting, though! In every way... I like the photo!

Why didn't they take the trawl a little earlier, so as not to risk people? Or is this a normal situation? Someone's even crouched down, someone's just talking, the door to the hold is wide open...
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, Yes, indeed, the deckhand (in black) didn't close the door behind him. This armored vessel leads to the factory and the engine room. That's bad.
Wild Cat 0.00
29.12.2020 05:15
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Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 05:21
Backwoods, Well filmed ......... the slip is so overwhelming.! A dangerous moment when the sailor jumped on the sack with a hook!
Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 05:22
Thank you all for your comments and attention to work!
Vladimir Fed 407.60
29.12.2020 06:15
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Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 06:49
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, I'm not a fisherman, so I have a traditional, and therefore the most accurate, answer to this: capitalism cares about safety last of all, not only at sea, but also in the mines, on construction sites, etc. Profit comes before human life.
Viktor Kirillov, You said it right!
Porsh Evgen
Porsh Evgen 514.42
29.12.2020 06:50
Wow! Impressive!!!
Nessie Skuch, Thanks for the feedback!
Wild Cat 0.00
29.12.2020 08:50
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Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
29.12.2020 12:20
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky,
Well, yes... you need to tie yourself with a rope. But how can you run around the deck with a rope? It can get tangled in everything? If a sailor falls overboard, he'd be carried away, and then picked up. But the rope won't let you go and gets you caught under the propeller. Good advice.
Backwoods, A safety rope can be just 2-5 meters long with a carabiner at the end. You use the carabiner to hook onto a handrail (or something else). This is especially important when you're going out onto the ramp where the trawl is pulled. This is where the risk of being washed overboard by a backwash is highest.
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
29.12.2020 12:23
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, The CEO ordered the captain to set the trawl in the evening, even though the weather was already deteriorating....by morning it was already too early. They spent a long time deciding whether to cut it or not. It was clearly visible when the sack floated to the surface; it weighed two tons....if it had been 40 tons or more, the ship could have capsized on the waves. Greed on the part of company owners is what sometimes leads to the loss of ships.
Porsh Evgen, A very recent incident on this topic: yesterday in the Barents Sea, a trawler capsized while hauling a trawl in stormy weather. There are casualties...

Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
29.12.2020 12:30
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, Because in a socialist war, there's something worth dying for, while capitalist Europe surrendered to Nazi Germany practically without a fight. Under capitalism, people live in fear, driven by animal instincts, which is why prostitution, drug addiction, and obscurantism flourish. Capitalism is...
Vladimir Fed, ????????? And why then has socialism long since sunk into oblivion? Is capitalism really to blame?
Viktor Kirillov
29.12.2020 12:41
Porsh Evgen, A very recent incident on this topic: yesterday in the Barents Sea, a trawler capsized while hauling a trawler in stormy weather. There are casualties...
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, So is socialism to blame for this, or maybe bourgeois greed?
Troitskiy Andrei
29.12.2020 12:41
Vladimir Fed, ????????? And why then has this very socialism long since sunk into oblivion? Is capitalism really to blame?
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, who is it?
Backwoods
Backwoods 375.99
29.12.2020 12:55
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, [quote]Backwoods, A safety rope can be just 2-5 meters long with a carabiner at the end. You use the carabiner to attach it to a handrail (or something else). This is especially important when going out onto the ramp used to pull the trawl. This is where the risk of being washed overboard by a backwash is highest.

Vyacheslav, have you ever been on the industrial deck of a trawler? Did you often go out onto the "ramp"? Trawlers have a slipway, not a ramp. And no one goes out onto a clean slipway.
So why talk about something you have no idea about?
Dr Mare
Dr Mare 18.24
29.12.2020 15:30
Colored details make the picture not as scary as it probably really is)) From me a recommendation without questions.
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
29.12.2020 15:48
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky,
Vyacheslav, have you ever been on the industrial deck of a trawler? Did you often go out onto the "ramp"? A trawler has a slipway, not a ramp. And no one goes out onto a clean slipway.
So why talk about something you know nothing about?
Backwoods, I'm not a sailor, but a mountain tourist. So I might misname parts of the vessel. However, the principles of insurance regulations are almost the same everywhere. And ignoring them leads to accidents and disasters. And by the way, in your video, the man ran out onto that very slipway. Without insurance, just hoping...
Vjacheslav Jagodzinskiy
29.12.2020 15:58
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, who?
Troitsky Andrey, Photosite is not the place to discuss such matters. And I'm not interested in it anyway...
Troitskiy Andrei
29.12.2020 16:02
Andrey Troitsky, Photosite is not the place to discuss such matters. And I'm not interested anyway...
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, yes, I agree, but the question was yours...
P Perunov 79.58
29.12.2020 22:16
Nice photo !
Vladimir Fed 407.60
30.12.2020 08:58
Vladimir Fed, ????????? And why then has this very socialism long since sunk into oblivion? Is capitalism really to blame?
Vyacheslav Yagodzinsky, Oh, come on, your capitalism is simply a paradise for bandits and prostitutes of various varieties, but not everyone wants to be bandits and prostitutes. So, the best is yet to come.